本不想发,整理的多了,费了些时间,走了点弯路,
故,为了同好者的效率,还是发了吧!
一体炉具,我了解的有三款,分别是:(价格均为淘宝上搜的最低价)
Jetboil PCS 425g 1L580元 (单配支架 116元)(选配部件很多,掉架,维修工具,杯套等)
Jetboil GCS 540g 750元带个支架,可使用其他锅(单配同伴1L杯 250元)
MSR Reactor 612g 1450元
Primus Eta Power 775g 990元
视频信息:
Editor's Choice 2007 -- MSR Reactor and Primus Eta Power 比较:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34EMehx1XHQ&mode=related&search=
搞笑New Jetboil :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWNQQGuSgB4
Jetboil pcs 直观视频,注意烧水时间!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iydwTC4qY8U&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoTwYVykBc8&mode=related&search=
Jetboil 演示 含支架,炉架部分:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v92sh9PPbdE
Jetboil 咖啡配件 演示:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Lsptb580s&mode=related&search=
Jetboil 改造:(我是没看明白)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae3NFd53-l8&mode=related&search=
附一个 Optimus Crux (期待leo开封)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cuOLYpujU
官方介绍:
MSR Reactor
MSR Reactor: Revolutionary Stove System by Alicia MacLeay August 11, 2006
In 1973 MSR separated a camping stove from its fuel canister to make the Model 9 (now the XGK EX) and revolutionized backcountry stoves. While stoves continued to evolve over the last thirty years, they’ve mainly done so around the same technology. Now MSR is claiming the second revolution in stoves—the Reactor, which they’re calling “the fastest-boiling, most fuel-efficient windproof stove system available.”
“Conventional stove technology is not a guarded secret,” said Jon Almquist, MSR brand manager, during a demonstration of the Reactor at the Outdoor Retailer Trade Show on Thursday, August 10. “A lot of people are making pretty good stoves” and stove specs like boiling time and efficiency have compressed among competitors. However, he points out that those specs are for controlled environments. “The goal was making a stove perform better in the field,” said Almquist, “to make a stove’s performance in the lab holdup in backcountry real world conditions.”
The Reactor uses MSR’s Auto-Start ignition, which fires up the stove with the push of a button, and the stove system’s burner utilizes both convective and radiant heat, for greater heat output. The integrated heat exchanger is fused right into the 1.7-liter pot and completely encloses and locks in the radiant burner to provide total wind protection.
An internal regulator equalizes fuel pressure for consistent flame output in all temperatures, meaning you’ll be boiling that last liter of water nearly as fast as the first. The Reactor boils its first liter of water off a full canister in less than three minutes and its last liter from the end of a canister at three and a half minutes, a marginal performance difference. And since it burns 22 liters of water per 8-ounce canister, you’ll be carrying less fuel overall. “For performance-to-weight ratio it wins hands down,” said Almquist.
The whole stove system fits inside the pot with its locking Lexan lid and handle for easy packing and no rattling in your pack.
“Where the Reactor really shines is when you step out of the lab,” said Almquist. “The Reactor was designed to be a performance stove in all conditions.” During the MSR demo, he and designer Redwood Stephens put the Reactor up against the MSR PocketRocket, with both fuel canisters sitting in ice baths and with a fan providing a light 9.5 mph wind. The Reactor won easily. In fact, it even boiled a second liter of water, while still in the wind, before the PocketRocket, now out of the wind, boiled its first.
The Reactor is part of MSR’s Fast & Lite series.
Minimum weight: 21 ounces/595 grams Packaged weight: 21.6 ounces/612 grams Fuel type: MSR IsoPro/MSR Canister Fuel (Europe) Boil time: 3 minutes per liter Release date: March 2007 (although I also heard January 2007 from one Cascade Designs rep) Suggested retail price: $149.95
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关于Jetboil 的常见问题在商务班机上可以携带Jetboil 炉具吗?当然可以,但是您要把燃料留在家里。大部分的航空公司允许您带着野营炉具旅行,(只要炉具内不含有燃料,水汽和残余物,保证炉具干净,随身携带野营炉具或者拖运野营炉具都是允许的)。您可以到目的地购买燃料,请从我们指定的经销商那里获得你目的地的经销商的清单。
是什么引起我的PCS 杯底生锈?生了锈又该怎么处理?如果Jetpower 气罐放置在潮湿的地方,PCS 杯内壁偶尔也会生锈的。生了锈虽然不好看,但是不会影响您的PCS 的功能。用刷子轻轻的清洗(避免用坚硬的刷子),就能消除铁锈。为了防止铁锈重新出现,请把您的气罐头朝下放在杯里(当然要套上塑料的防尘帽)。这样就能使气罐与潮湿的杯底隔离,解决了气罐生锈的问题。
Jetboil 可以用其它的气罐吗?Jetboil 的EN417 规格和全世界制造商所采用的标准是一致的。请注意,我们还未检测过Jetboil 使用其它牌子气罐是否安全,因此我们不能保证使用其它的燃料是绝对安全的。
为何Jetpower 燃料会比其它的燃料更好?Jetpower 燃料是丙烷(propane)和异丁烷(iso-butane)的混合物。丙烷(propane)提高了燃料的气体压力,增强了Jetpower 燃料在寒冷天气中的性能。当燃料稀释后,异丁烷(iso-butane)能长时间保持恒压。Jetpower 燃气罐可以很方便的放置在烹饪杯里。
FluxRing™起什么作用?这种专利设备聚集炉头发出的热量,并直接的加热食物,减少了热能散发在空气中的浪费。而且FluxRing 热量转换器使高效方便地加热各种形状的容器成为可能。
燃料的优势在哪?重量轻,空间小,省钱是燃料的优势。由于Jetboil 的性能是普通炉具的两倍,在旅行时你只要带一半的燃料就够用,这样减轻了重量。事实上,我们100 克容量的Jetpower 气罐和普通炉具使用的227 克容量的气罐可以煮沸同样量的水。由于Jetpower 气罐可以方便的套在烹饪杯里节省了空间,这是另一大优势。
在寒冷的天气里能正常使用Jetboil 吗?
在寒冷的天气里,所有的气罐的表面都会有水珠凝结。燃料温度越低,气体压力越低,炉头发出的热量越少。显然这样要把水煮沸需要更长的时间。Jetpower的燃点变低减少了气罐的冷却增强了燃料的性能。含有丙烷(propane)的Jetpower 燃料减轻了寒冷天气带来的问题。我们建议您把气罐保存在一个保温的袋子里,在加热完你的食物后马上撤掉放回保温袋子里。另外再多带一个气罐,并把它保温起来,当有需要的时候用来替换冷却了的气罐。
为什么铝是炊具的最好选择?铝的导热性能远远高于钛和不锈钢。导热性取决于Jetboil 的速度和燃料的性能。不锈钢虽然耐用但是很重。钛价格昂贵,效率低,导热性能差,很容易使食物烧焦。
什么是坚硬的阳极氧化铝(hard-anodized aluminum)?
阳极氧化(Anodizing)是在铝的表面形成一层坚硬的氧化铝的过程。这层氧化铝把食物与铝隔离开,同时确保炊具表面不受磨损。为了避免阳极氧化的表面磨损,在用Jetboil 时我们建议您避免使用坚硬的餐具和洗刷工具。当要把Jetpower 燃气罐放置在烹饪杯里时,我们建议您把杯子擦干,然后垫一层布以防刮坏磨损。减少气罐和燃烧底座的移动,使气罐盖(fuel cap)固定在气罐上,可以减少磨擦。
我的Jetboil 不好点火,我该怎么办?压电火花的强弱起决于它在炉头上的位置。调整piezo wire 的位置到火花最强的位置,这样就能解决点火难的问题。如果调整之后仍然有问题,请与我们的客户服务部联系。另外,我们推荐您带上火柴或是打火机,以备不能点火之用。
一罐燃料可以煮沸多少水?每罐Jetpower 装有100 克燃料,可以煮沸12 升的水。制订旅行计划时,多估计10 升水的燃料,以备额外之用。如果要把雪融化,将会多消耗6 升的燃料。
为何Jetpower 气罐会比其它厂商的气罐更小?
平常的炉具使用的是普通的燃料,燃点高,产生大量多余的热量。Jetboil 是一种压缩燃料(fuel miser),只要用一半的燃料就能煮沸同样容积的水。由于Jetboil节能,所以我们把气罐设计的比较小以减轻重量和缩小体积。可以装运Jetboil 燃料吗?在纸箱的表面贴上适当的标签,Jetboil 燃料就可以通过汽车运输。更多的信息请联系当地运输公司,也可以和我们联系。
用Jetboil 可以煮什么东西?
Jetboil 可以加热液体及液体食品,例如包括水、通心粉、汤、茶以及米饭。当加热粘性食物时,如烘豆,煨炖菜,我们建议你把火调小,同时快速翻动,以防烧焦。
您想购买Jetboil 的其它配件?。。。
我们会及时更新我们的新产品。请经常浏览我们的网站,以获得新的产品信息。Jetboil 有保修服务吗?Jetboil 提供一年的保修期。从购买之日起一年之内,由于生产过程造成的裂痕,请寄给经销商或Jetboil 代理商,邮费自付。Jetboil 会检测是否由于生产过程造成的裂痕。如果确是这样,Jetboil 会重新修理或是换一个,然后再免费寄回给您。由于操作不规范而引起的毁坏及故障,保养不适当、疏忽、正常的磨损以及事故都不在保修范围内。
颜色:黑色、军绿迷彩
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PRIMUS EtaPower EF 351001
快速煮饭
低能耗
重量轻
保护环境 |
效率和节能冠军 EtaPower炉具作为PRIMUS的新贵可谓是效率与节能的完美化身。它所提供的高能效可使您拥有超快的煮饭时间,超低的能源消耗,同时超轻的整体重量,及更加环保的特性使其成为炉具系列的新宠。此款炉具包含一个底座式碟状炉头,一个挡风板和带有热交换器的一套2.1EtaPower锅具。同时,EtaPower炉具还包括一个平底煎锅,一个把手和一个保温存放袋。 使用EtaPower套锅可使您的效率和时间提高50%以上,同时它可以与市面上任何的气炉或万用炉具搭配使用。
更多资料请下载PPT教程
EtaPower EF 351001性能参数
775 克- 27.3盎司 | 150x150x135毫米 | ||
2000 瓦- 7150 BTU /小时 | 电子打火 | ||
4 分钟 | 1-4人使用 |
by Dave MacLeay January 17, 2007 updated February 3, 2007
In the beginning there was the humble campfire. Today the cutting edge of backcountry cooking technology is the integrated canister stove: cooking systems that mate a compressed-fuel burner with a specially designed pot and high-efficiency heat exchanger. These stoves promise faster boil times, increased fuel efficiency, and greater convenience than their forebears.
How do they stack up? We put three integrated canister stove systems to the test.
| Jetboil Personal Cooking System (PCS)In 2003, the Jetboil Personal Cooking System (PCS) was the first integrated canister stove to hit the market. It’s essentially a 1-liter insulted aluminum mug that attaches to a burner via Jetboil’s FluxRing heat exchanger – a ring of aluminum fins that conduct heat from the PCS’s burner into the pot. While the pot will hold a liter of water, Jetboil cautions that the maximum safe boiling capacity is only 2 cups (approximately half a liter). Weight (measured)
Packed dimensions
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MSRP: $80 |
| Jetboil Group Cooking System (GCS)The Jetboil Group Cooking System (GCS) uses the same burner as the PCS, but pairs it with a pot support and a larger, more conventionally-shaped 1.5-liter pot. In addition to the identical (and interchangeable) burner, the GCS borrows a number of design features from its smaller sibling, including an insulating neoprene pot cozy and the FluxRing heat exchanger. Weight (measured)
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MSRP: $110 |
| MSR ReactorDue in stores this April, the MSR Reactor is the newest offering from stove giant MSR. While the Jetboil stoves bear some resemblance to traditional backpacking stoves, the Reactor’s flying-saucer burner design and beefy, fully-enclosed heat exchanger are completely unique. The design difference is more than skin deep: in addition to conventional convective heat transfer, the Reactor utilizes a glowing mesh in the burner assembly that radiates heat into the hard-anodized aluminum pot, much the same way the sun heats up a dark-colored tent. (Read more about the technology inside the Reactor.) Weight (measured)
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MSRP: $140 |
Wild cardA fourth integrated canister stove system, the Primus ETA Power, was not available for testing at press time, but is expected to hit stores later this year. |
The Jetboil PCS and the MSR Reactor feature deep, narrow pots that are designed primarily for boiling water quickly and efficiently. That’s great if your backcountry diet consists mainly of dehydrated meal packets, but if you’re interested in creating culinary delights, these stoves are probably not for you. The Jetboil GCS is more oriented toward actual cooking, while retaining boil times similar to the PCS.
Under controlled conditions and using a full canister the Reactor boiled a liter of water in just less than three minutes (2:54) – so quickly it almost took me by surprise. Subsequent boils were nearly as quick, averaging 3:03 over five test boils. The Reactor has a built-in fuel pressure regulator, which provides steady output throughout the life of each canister.
The Jetboil stoves didn’t live up to the speedy performance that their name implies. The GCS averaged 6:51 per liter boiled and the PCS averaged 6:44 per liter boiled (3:22 for its half-liter capacity), achieving low times of 6:20 and 6:37 per liter on a full canister, respectively.
About the tests: All of our tests were performed using 69° F air and water temperatures. The stoves were fueled with an 80/20 Isobutane/Propane mix from 220-gram canisters and operated at maximum output.
Fastest Boiling: MSR Reactor
The Jetboil stoves were designed with efficiency foremost in mind. They feature burners that sip fuel at a decidedly slower rate than most canister stoves. Instead of blasting the pot with as much thermal energy as possible – and losing much of it up the sides – the Jetboil burner is calibrated so that the heat exchanger captures the stove’s energy before it escapes up the sides of the pot. This design makes the Jetboil stoves very fuel-efficient: in our tests the PCS and GCS averaged 10 grams and 9 grams of fuel, respectively, per liter boiled. That translates to 22 and 24 liters per 220-gram canister. The trade-off for this level of efficiency is in boil times (see above). The Reactor takes a decidedly more high-output approach, relying on a beefy heat exchanger that extends up the sides of the pot to capture every last bit of heat. This results in very fast boil times, albeit using a bit more fuel than the Jetboil stoves. The Reactor consistently required 12 grams of fuel to boil one liter of water. That’s 18 boils per 220 g canister – not quite as stingy as the Jetboil GCS's 24 boils, but still better than traditional canister stove designs.
Because of their efficient use of energy, all three stoves put off very little residual heat. No worries about singeing your hands while stirring these pots.
Most Fuel-Efficient: Jetboil GCS
Most stove tests are conducted under controlled laboratory conditions – conditions you’ll probably never replicate in the backcountry. But even a small breeze can have a big impact on a stove’s performance, sapping heat away from the pot and into the passing air, so we also conducted tests in an 8 mph wind.
All three stoves’ heat exchangers help to shelter their burners from the wind, giving them a distinct advantage over traditional canister stove designs. But the Reactor is the only design that completely encloses the burner. In an 8 mph wind the Reactor boiled a liter of water in 3:16, just several seconds longer (and using no more fuel) than in calm conditions. The Jetboil PCS didn’t fair as well, taking a full minute longer (4:22 vs. 3:22) to boil its smaller half-liter cup. The Jetboil GCS performed poorly in the wind, needing 18:26 to boil a liter, and burning more than twice as much fuel to do so as in calm conditions.
Thanks to their built-in piezo lighters, both Jetboil stoves are easy to light under windy conditions, while firing up the Reactor requires keeping a match or lighter going in the wind. This negates some of the Reactor’s advantage in the wind, but MSR plans on adding a piezo to future versions.
We haven’t done cold-weather testing of these stoves, but the Reactor’s pressure regulator promises to maintain steady performance over a range of temperatures.
Also in the real world, how you adjust your stove can have a big impact on efficiency and boil times. While we weren’t able to test every stove at every conceivable output level, the Reactor boiled a liter of water in 4:04 using just 10 grams of fuel at a medium setting.
Best Real-World Performance: MSR Reactor
At 15.3 ounces, the Jetboil PCS is the smallest and lightest integrated canister stove, but the tradeoff is that it has less than half the capacity of the Reactor and the Jetboil GCS. That’s okay if you’re traveling solo, but not so convenient when cooking for a crowd of hungry backpackers.
For an additional 4.3 ounces (Jetboil GCS) or 4.6 ounces (MSR Reactor) you get a pot with nearly double the capacity. The Reactor is the heaviest stove of the three, due mostly to its beefy heat exchanger, but requires less pack space than the GCS. When sharing the load with a partner, carrying a GCS or Reactor is lighter than bringing an additional pot for the PCS.
The Reactor and the Jetboil PCS are both designed so that their burners and fuel canisters (220 g canister in the Reactor, 100 g in the PCS) fit snugly inside their pots. The Jetboil GCS’s components also pack inside its pot, but the fit is loose, which can leave the pot support rattling annoyingly in your pack.
Best for Weight and Packability: Jetboil PCS
The Jetboil GCS’s pot support allows you to use the Jetboil burner with almost any cookware, including frying pans and larger pots, although you’ll lose the advantage of the heat exchanger. Since the PCS and GCS use the same burner it’s also possible to mix-and-match Jetboil components for different trips, using the PCS pot for fast-and-light summit attempt or carrying the whole kit along for family backpacking.
The Reactor is limited to using its single 1.4-liter pot. Because of the burner’s convex design, other pots cannot be placed on the Reactor. MSR has not announced plans for any additional Reactor-compatible cookware.
Most Compatible: Jetboil GCS
Both the Reactor and the Jetboil PCS are designed primarily for boiling water and melting snow. Their deep, narrow pots are awkward to stir without an extra-long spoon, and are not particularly conducive to preparing haute cuisine. Neither is compatible with other cookware, so frying up breakfast pancakes is impossible. I did manage to cook a packaged rice and chicken meal in the Reactor, but stirring and eating out of the deep pot was awkward at best. For the most part with the Reactor and Jetboil PCS you’ll want to stick to boiling water for drinks and freeze-dried meals.
The GCS’s more conventionally sized pot makes it a better candidate for culinary tasks that require more than boiling water. The GCS pot has measurements stamped (legibly!) into the pot at the 0.5-, 1.0-, and 1.5-liter marks – which can simplify boiling and cooking tasks and eliminate the need for measuring via a water bottle. And the Jetboil’s lower-output burner makes simmering with the GCS a better proposition than with many canister stoves.
Best for Cooking: Jetboil GCS
The Reactor has the fewest parts: pot, lid, burner, and fuel canister. The PCS adds a protective cover for its heat exchanger, the cover doubling as a small measuring cup. Both stoves allow you to store the stove with the burner and canister still connected to each other, which saves time and hassle both before and after a meal or a quick brew. Packing up the GCS requires separating the components and arranging them just so inside the pot.
The Reactor’s rugged Lexan lid sits nicely on top of the pot without having to be “snapped” on or off like those on the Jetboils. However, I found that the surface tension of collected condensation tends to “seal” the Reactor’s lid to the rim of the pot when boiling water – making it very difficult to pry off when it’s still hot. The curved design and protruding handle of the Reactor’s lid also makes it pretty much useless for anything other than covering the pot. The GCS’s plastic lid and heat exchanger cover, on the other hand, can double as plates, cutting boards, or shallow bowls.
Like most canister stoves, a small knob built into the body of the stove regulates output of the Jetboil GCS and PCS. The plastic knob stays cool to the touch, but its recessed location can make it awkward to adjust, especially with gloves on. The Reactor's adjustment knob is located in a somewhat more accessible location, on the outside of the burner body. (Our test Reactor featured a large plastic throw lever that did not make it into the production version.) Since the Reactor is very quiet and the pot completely encases the burner, you have to lift the pot off the burner to tell if it’s still lit; several times I extinguished the burner while attempting to simmer.
One unique feature of the Jetboil PCS is that the burner securely latches to the pot. By clipping the pot’s nylon webbing handle to a carabiner, the PCS can easily be rigged into a hanging setup favored by big wall climbers. Neither the GCS nor the Reactor is so equipped.
The GCS requires special care when removing the pot. If you try to slide the pot off the stove rather than lifting straight up, the heat exchanger can catch on the pot support and dislodge it or upset the entire stove.
Easiest to Use: MSR Reactor and Jetboil PCS (tie)
The MSR Reactor, the Jetboil PCS, and the Jetboil GCS are all solid performers and each has something unique to offer. Which stove is the best will depend on your specific needs.
If you often travel solo and are looking to cut your pack weight, the Jetboil PCS is the obvious choice. Its diminutive size and miserly fuel consumption make it handy for brewing a quick trailside cup of tea. Used with smaller 110 g fuel canisters, it packs down small and saves weight on shorter trips, but may not make sense if you’re traveling with a group.
For boiling water quickly or melting snow in windy conditions, the MSR Reactor gets the job done. It’s the heaviest (by only 0.3 oz.) and least fuel-efficient of the three stoves tested, but by far the best performer in a variety of conditions. And don’t overlook the “gee-whiz” factor – the Reactor’s unique design will get some stares wherever you light it up.
If you’re cooking for a group or want to get more creative than freeze-dried meals, the Jetboil GCS is the best bet, but beware its lack of performance in the wind. Combined with a PCS pot (aka Jetboil Companion Cup, available separately) the GCS can provide flexibility for a variety of trips.
还有篇JETBOIL 的官方数据pdf 不能上传,有需要的自己到官方站下吧。
还有篇EATPOWER 自己出的评测数据(leo提供),也请自行官方站下载!
主观内容就得等各个小白鼠的PK报告了。
有对JETBOIL 感兴趣的,这周内就一起买吧!!
资料收集的够全的哈。
这东东热效率是高,不过重心忒高了吧,体积也不小。最主要的是容器是杯体,只能煮面,烧茶,用途和容积有点局限(明显是想自己帐篷里偷偷享受)。不过我还是严重支持小高同学继续败家下去!
顶!
你的这些问题,jetnoil已经解决了,中心高,担心稳定性,可以使用气罐稳定器解决。
配上支架就可以通用你所有的锅了。你瞅瞅视频...
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